Opinions: Free Speech vs Freedom of Expression

Gay Latino Trump supporter brandishes knife at Kathy Griffin show. Says he’s the victim.

Look! As much as I uphold Kathy Griffin’s “right” to do what she did – even as a terrified opponent of Trump (who I voted for), I hold her personably responsible for that (“Freedom of speech” be damned – there are moral limits) – just like those exceeded by Danish cartoonists. Persons of conscience know what that limit is, and anyone that ventures beyond it – richly deserves whatever negative consequences accrue. In my opibion – Kathy Griffith should not be allowed to board any commercial airline flight. (And I am HIGHLY criical that a “No Fly” list exists.)

you don’t understand that no fly lists exist?

Kathy Griffith is a talk show host and comedian Kathy Griffin has not crimed and does not merit having her freedom of movement limited in any manner.

Blasphemy is duty where not punishable by death

#JeSuisCharlie #FreeRaif #IdleNoMore
#PopeApologizeResidentialSchoolMassGraves

Of course I know about NoFly Lists. What you say about crime is correct – but it’s not necessary to commit a crime to get on the list. (And not all peope who have committed crimes are on the list.) It is enough to be considered a public threat. Anyone sick enough to do what she did – obviously has extremely poor judgment and is unreliable. (What might she think would be funny to do to a planeload of people?) I don’t like Trump, either – but that was a direct threat and she should have gone to prison for a few months to give her some time to improve her attitude and be an example to anyone else that might be thinking of some outrageous stunt like that

Kathy Griffin is a comedian. she did a comedy commentary, she obviously does not pose an actual threat, nor does she have a following with a history of acting out violently on her words.

unlike politicans, and in particular Trump, who should be banned by platform user agreements, never mind actual international law about cyberbullying.

During Obama’s administration regular Americans hung him in effigy.

Obama had more actual death threats made to the government than any other president and probably a few combined.

your under reaction to the real world republican harm and over reaction to a comedian is telling.

Yeah! Disqus moderators shouldn’t allow any opinions that disagree with a majority. I just happen to be in favor of a higher standard of decency and taste where regard for POTUS is concerned. Pardon Me. I daresay that the Obama administration probably did have more threats in 8 years – than the Trump admin has had in less than 2 – years (but let’s not be too reasonable about it).

if the majority rules, LGBTQ2 will be genocided

censorship is not the solution,

opinions are subject to the idea marketplace.

and while the right to one and expressing it is equal, depending on geography and demographics, anyway

the actual content of thought matters

and alternative to facts and objective reality, are not valid opinions

thus, don’t have to be deemed so

I can’t argue with a single line of that. (With the caveat that the “content of thought” is often only a matter of bias and perception. I commonly find myself in awkward debate because I agree with someone – for the “wrong” reasons.). Sorry!

no worries. but content of thought is actually less subjective than you realize

there is a difference between a personal opinion and an educated understanding and the professional expert analysis.

the mistake people make is from personal views and not understanding or recognizing the other two types.

And of course you would be the one to do that “professional expert analysis” – right?

My opinion ranges from personal view, subject matter expert and professional expert analysis, depending on what the topic is.

So, why are you posting at me if the way I express myself bothers you?

Because I hope to have an interesting conversation. You’re not “expert” about anything except shooting your mouth off and making insults that you expect other people to be too inferior to notice. GOOD BYE!

“Because I hope to have an interesting conversation. You’re not “expert” about anything except shooting your mouth off”

translation: you offer zero sum on your talking points

behavior: become threatened when challenged, disagreed with and not deferred to

which is the problem with people who only have personal opinions never realize, is when they are talking to someone who has all three kinds of views; and
because they mistake a pro/expert for personal, and then accuse that person of being arrogant, while projecting their own inferiority complex

in the words of my generation X, whatever dude.

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