the clearest path is not always through the mud

more queerbaiting in movies.

it’s not enough for a character to be called gay

when they don’t express it, no more subtexting,

or worse being gay it their only plot contribution

I am looking for queer people as role models

not heteros thinking they are helping to represent

I saw Philadelphia in the movie theatres

the first Big Name Production and it was a soft lecture to straight to not be prejudice and connected anti queer and fear of aids with ethnic bigotry

it’s time for queers to tell queer stories

and we deserve our own celebrities

This Disney movie will include the studio’s first gay character. Played by a straight man.

If you need positive discrimination to land yourself a role, then you need to think of a new career.
I’m sure Jack auditioned for this role and landed it based on talent. Equality means equal treatment.

says the demographic who can’t compete without unfair advantage

and gets all false equivalence when this is pointed out

the oppressor and the oppressee are not on equal footing

Pence whined that there were 12 queer of 240 of the team usa was too many

First I’m from the UK, so I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Secondly I don’t have an advantages. Far from it.
Thirdly, you know nothing about me, or the demographic you think I fill 🙂

British you say? youtube “Yes minister, positive discrimination”

lgbtq needs role models, real ones

that’s why

We need real role models; atheletes, scientists, politicians. Not made up characters.

you misunderstand what discrimination is

how pale male boring

jocks are little different than music or actors

curious you’d favor the traditional bully group

over the theatre types were LGBTQ stereotypically thrive

Im pretty sure I’ve got the definition down, thanks though.

Also not pale 😉 and please don’t assume my gender.

You really need to stop using stereotypes.

Gay athletes show tremendous courage coming, as they face a lot of criticism from fellows athletes and even fans. It shows immense courage to still be yourself in the face of this. That’s the type of role model I would want for my child, and indeed something I try to embody myself.

I also mentioned scientists and politicians….

Are you done trying to be an antagonist yet? Lol

on an article about a hetero playing a queer movie character

you’re being a jock

you lack an irony metre

don’t discriminate against hetero white men
you behave like one, so sharing their label shouldn’t bother you

No one has said gay people didn’t have the opportunity to audition?!

Read your first sentence and think about it applies to everyone and how dumb it sounds. The point is representation and visibility. Gay men are still shamed and ostracized. Placing all these straight white men in as the gay character just reinforces the historical narrative that gay men are too gay to be themselves not only in real life, but especially on TV and movies. I guarantee you this unknown comedian was not the only good actor out of the bunch. It’s more comfortable for studios to have straight men promoting their projects. Realize that

he can’t hear you either over the sound of he got his

so why does the rest of the community complain, eh?

Ooooooooooooooooor he was the best person that they auditioned?

You can’t give a gay role to a gay actor simply because they’re gay? That’s majorly type casting a whole demographic of the acting community and positively discriminating against them.

There are plenty of gay actors out there playing straight roles, and gay roles.

The amount of gay actors playing gay characters in mainstream movies is negligible Mr. Teft. If they were sufficiently considered, there would not be such disproportions

you are the one pretending casting or hiring is about merit or qualification.

you are the one pretending casting or hiring is about merit or qualification.

Why am I a jock? HAHA I LOVE that you called me a jock haha!! God you just love your stereotypes don’t you.

Im probably the furthest thing from a jock there is lol.

Anyway, you’re wasting my time (I mean that nicely) with your trolling and desire to find something else to get offended at. Go enjoy your life 🙂 bye bye

Anyway, you’re wasting my time (I mean that nicely) with your trolling
and desire to find something else to get offended at. Go enjoy your life
🙂 bye bye

Hey, get your own material!!

indeed, hardly a surprise you don’t enjoy your own words or being treated as you behave towards others,

so let’s get really real world

given that western governments are telling refugees that they are not gay enough, how are heterosexuals supposed to know anything about actual queers in their own culture, when they never see them?

if you are not a jock, but are just a jock supporter beta or charlie male given you support science and politics, perhaps you might understand the connection between life and art now?

That has absolutely nothing to do with it, at all.

Im not a ‘jock’ or ‘jock supporter’?…. you seriously need to stop making assumptions about me and trying to stereotype me with destructive labels.

The end of this discussion is that a heterosexual auditioned for the part of a gay character and got the role. It wasn’t handed to him. The most talented actor was given the role based on ability. The actors sexuality did not factor. Which is exactly what equality means.

As a gay man, I’m telling you there are role models out there for young gay men to aspire towards in EVERY area which they may show an interest in.

I won’t be replying to you again as you don’t listen 🙂

Have a fantastic weekend, try to wake up and see good in the world where it exists, instead of waking up and thinking ‘hmmm what can I be offended by today?’

Actually, we do need characters in mass entertainment too

since that is what most people talk about

not just in the art, but the artists creating it as well

“As a gay man, I’m telling you

I won’t be replying to you again as you don’t listen :-)”

you do tell, your lack of understanding the connection between heterosexual government employees and others in society and their stereotypes, as you defend heteros representing queers in entertainments.

“Have a fantastic weekend, try to wake up and see good in the world where
it exists, instead of waking up and thinking ‘hmmm what can I be
offended by today?’”

you were saying about stereotyping?

applying them to a particular person is different than discussing them as cultural archtypes, which is to create a common frame of reference

something circle jerk zero summers are unable to do

We have them.

too few and far between

we are a community that consumes its leaders

That’s silly and untrue.

how many community volunteer groups have you been in?

where they majority rule or consensus decision driven?

with how many chair rotations for representation across the grassroots group?

….and we have them? We have current and historical role models. As a gay man I can assume you that I have role models 🙂

you do assume me quite a bit, its not reassuring

and you got yours, so its good enough for everyone else

is exactly the problem that you are unable to see.

it’s that lack of common ground and empathy, eh.

learned anything yet? because just because you fail to see the connection between representation of LGBTQ in mainstream entertainment by LGBTQ does not mean that the other legit uses of the LGBTQ nation site don’t get that connection, eh.

given that western governments are telling refugees that they are not
gay enough, how are heterosexuals supposed to know anything about actual
queers in their own culture, when they never see them?

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One Response to the clearest path is not always through the mud

  1. dykewriter says:

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    Nina K Tryggvason
    +1
    more disney queerbaiting, i’d rather watch a queer actor play a character than a hetero character playing queer

    Darrin C (d3p0)
    Why is it necessary for a gay person to play a particular role? Do they ‘deserve’ it for some reason?

    Nina K Tryggvason
    any given particular one, no reason, but us LGBTQ audiences certainly do deserve to see LGBTQ actors in stories about us on screens, given the number of hetero movies, seriously learn to get over yourselves and watch, listen and learn something.

    Darrin C (d3p0)
    I agree to a point. The oppressed should always be given priority over the oppressor, in general.

    nina
    if you can’t support that all the way, then you are on the side of the oppressor, and if you favour the majority, you can’t math either.

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