atheists are the most historically oppressed group and there continue to be laws, in America, against atheists holding public office.Nina Tryggvason
as true and funny as this meme is, thinking back to the 1990s, saying it to so called moderates resulted in emotional responses comparable to rationalizing racism and homophobiaAlan W
+Nina Tryggvason That’s actually unconstitutional, but it shows their strong intentions.
+Alan W fanatical extremism is not admirable. and being bothered by that others exist is mental illness
also, when the sentence starts with “it’s unconstitutional” there is no “but” exception or admiration for that which is traitorism by meaning or definition.
+Nina Tryggvason most of the laws are like that though. I think it is still on the books in Texas that if you have wire cutters near a fence, you get the death penalty. They just cannot be enforced anymore. And taking the time to rewrite everything is not worth it.
+Richard Williams actually, updating legislation that fails to conform to foundational documents is essential, because laws on the books are laws that are gonna get used. Iceland threw out it’s entire government structure and re-built it.
+Richard Williams America is overdue for an overhaul and revolution. Theocracy is the wrong way to go
+Richard Williams that politicians spend time controlling women is the waste of government money and time.
+Nina Tryggvason no.
+Richard Williams then you are the status quo to be overcome and part of the problem.
goverment can and does change rules, look at how Trump & Repubs have ended the USA Supreme Court and changed a democracy into a theocracy in less than 1 year
Less than a year is very quick! I mean when you look at the timeline of how things that were consisted taboo took MANY years to change like interracial marriage or gay marriage
+Ebony Skeptic reactionary is faster than revolutionary. one is fear of and the other is change
social change can also occur quickly, in Canada, 60% were against marriage equality and after it happened, it was less than a year that it became 60% for and now people realize, it had no effect on them. and Canadians made fun of Americans for delaying and freaking out when it happened – and they act as if other nations did not successfully and peacefully integrate and improve the economy,
+Nina Tryggvason Why would you rewrite something that doesn’t matter? Why waste billions and billions of dollars rewriting something that will then also need to be rewritten. I use to think the exact same way. REWRITE IT ALL! But that is a slippery slippery slope(IE who gets to rewrite it?). Texas cannot enforce the no atheist in politics because of the Federal laws that prevent it from working, noted by Texas actually having atheists in office. End of story.
Now you did sneak(I replied “no” not seeing that comment) in the “controlling women” part, which I am totally with you on. Women should be allowed to make their own choices.
+Nina Tryggvason “then you are the status quo to be overcome and part of the problem”
As a liberal atheist in Texas please explain how this applies to me. Otherwise, I’ll just take it as a snap judgment and ignore it.
To me the easiest solution to all politics is a really really simple one. REMOVE lawyers. 98% or so(last I checked) of all politicians are lawyers. Lawyers don’t “do”, they argue. Get people that do things and know things in the positions that are meant to be there. In a department of health you should have the appropriate degree or you get to leave. Simple as that.
people thinking it’s simple is why Trump is president.
+Richard Williams because law does matter, and your failure to understand that is why “you are the status quo to be overcome and part of the problem” – and Modernizing Law is the reflection of the change in society. and going by what you posted, it is clear to me that you do not understand the complexity, so not talking to you is fine by me. have a nice day, eh
this “As a liberal atheist in Texas please explain how this applies to me. Otherwise, I’ll just take it as a snap judgment and ignore it.” you are trying to dismiss to cling to your pov, which is the core of your problem, and again, why you are part of the problem – you confirm what the republicans say – that you are not really liberal.
you do realize the law currently says an atheist can hold office. Simple as that. I am not talking about laws that are still in effect that do have real consequences on people, since the atheist law DOES NOT AFFECT ANYTHING(it is unconstitutional as stated above, removing it only costs money and could cause other problems with how it is removed). And as I said before I agree that we need new up to date laws. And my views on actually how to do this are really really far fetched since my removing lawyers was just the iceberg.
Suicide does not prove free will. (And Alans joke was awesome)
No idea why Trump has anything to do with it. I said my best idea for a solution would be removing all lawyers from politics. I don’t think this is a mainstream idea. But it would be a great start. As I voted for the first woman president I do not approve of Trump.
Canceling religious holidays would be awesome! I agree lets do that.
Can you please expand on what republicans say that confirms that I am not a liberal? I would love to hear it! I literally just talked about removing almost all politicians from office(since 98% of them are laywers). I haven’t liked a politician ever. Bernie is the closest I get and he is still just middle of the road between left and right.
-Atheist can’t hold office
~It is in Texas constitution
~Cannot be enforced since it is unconstitutional
~Could cause other problems just removing it
~It has never been used to prevent someone from taking office
Let’s start with things that actually have an impact on people and go from there. Holidays (Holy days) do sound good.
you are not entitled to cherry pick from the public
to whom you owe for the infrastructure that allows you to operate a business
Dignity of person is when rights are extended is required for a civil society
The First Amendment forbids the Government to get involved with religion, they must stay neutral.
There is no religious test required to run for or hold any public office. It is unconstitutional.
and America was the only G20 nation where women remain unequal, but it’s out of the G20 group now, eh.